
The Edit. The Ending. The Evolution.
Welcome to this special—and final—episode of the Relentless Few podcast.
I take some time to reflect on the journey this podcast has taken—from its origins and growth to why I’m choosing to bring it to a close, at least in its current form.
Throughout our time together, I’ve built everything around the E4 rhythm: explore, experiment, evaluate, and edit. Today, I challenge the common belief that ending or pausing something means we’ve failed. In reality, I see this as an essential, conscious edit and an evolution in who I am and the work I want to do next.
I invite you to join me as I reckon with the inevitability of drift, share how I’m returning to what matters most, and explain why the process of periodic reflection and editing isn’t just a framework—it’s a way of being.
As I step away from this podcast, my hope is that you’ll consider where you might need to explore, experiment, and edit in your own life. Remember: endings aren’t failures. The music continues, even if the arrangement changes. This episode is my closing reflection on becoming, authorship of our lives, and staying relentlessly true to what matters most.
Moments
00:00 "Final Podcast Episode Announcement"
05:55 "Embrace Curiosity, Not Self-Judgment"
08:13 "Embrace Change: Experiment, Evaluate, Evolve"
11:31 Podcast Ending Decision Reflections
14:11 Evolving Through Intentional Choices
17:15 Intentional Choices, No Regrets
20:16 Creating the Self: Intentional Growth
Perry Maughmer believes the world deserves better leadership; that in every human interaction there is the opportunity to either build others up or tear them down; and that leadership is the choice we make in those moments.
These beliefs led Perry to create the Potential Leader Lab. He wanted to offer those who share his beliefs the space and safety to explore transformative ideas, experiment with new behaviors, and evolve into the leaders they were meant to be and that the world needs.
This is a framework he has used again and again with his Vistage peer advisory groups and companies like Turn-Key Tunneling, Convergint, Haughn & Associates, I Am Boundless, Ketchum & Walton, LSP Technologies, and Ahlum & Arbor.
Perry lives and works on the shores of Buckeye Lake in Ohio, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, and on the beach in Anna Maria, Florida with his amazingly creative wife Lisa. They have 2 rescue dogs and are intermittently visited by their 3 wonderful children throughout the year. Perry & Lisa are living life in crescendo and focused on exploring, experimenting, and evolving their vision of a life they have no desire to retire from.
Copyright 2025 Perry Maughmer
The Relentless Few
Let me start by telling you that I don't have THE answers.
So why listen to my podcast?
Because I focus on asking the right questions, such as: What if you stop focusing on what you're doing as a leader and shift to who you're being as a leader?
Did you feel that uncomfortable twinge deep down inside when you read that? That means we're making progress. It’s also the start of the journey toward realizing your potential as the leader you were meant to be.
This pursuit of true leadership doesn't begin inside the next big business bestseller or with a high-powered leadership consultant. It starts with you and your potential.
Unlocking your potential as a leader requires a change in your beliefs about who you are and what you can accomplish.
Together, we'll seek out new, eclectic, and provocative insights to form new hypotheses about leadership. Then, we'll take these ideas into the world so you can see what works and what doesn’t. Then, and only then, can you begin your evolution into the leader you were meant to be. That's where the real transformation begins.
Your responsibility, as a leader, is ever-increasing and never-ending. This podcast is dedicated and committed to that pursuit.
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